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Google launches Video Player for IE, FF

Users can now watch video from within the browser via a special downloaded player -- one that likely will enable pay-per-view in the future.

...But to watch video, users first have to download the Google Video Viewer, a free plug-in for Google video content only. (The plug-in works with the internet Explorer and Firefox browsers.)

http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article.php/3515771

...this is clearly a shot across Microsoft's bow. The Windows Media Player is a standalone application, rife with its own DRM and entanglements with Hollywood. Many once claimed IE would never fall, but Firefox has shown what the open source community can do with some good code and the support of a dedicated user base. I'm pretty sure that once Google's VLC implementation is stared at by enough folks, a stand alone player with hooks into Google Video search and many others will not be far behind.

http://battellemedia.com/archives/001658.php
Despite all the no-comments, Chane did leave the door open to further features, saying, We're always looking at new solutions to make search better.

And what does this have to do with search? Focus, Google! Focus!
Interesting that the article states Google built the player on top of VLC which others have stated might be doomed to patent issues
http://www.zeropaid.com/news/5504/VideoLAN days numbered?/
It's not SEARCH what they're focusing on, never been:

Google's mission is to organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful...
Focus, Google! Focus!

diversification is always wise course for businesses to take... especially in the internet marketplace which is volatile by nature.
Blinkx has been doing it WITHOUT add on for many months if not a year...
Sounds like it would have malware or least trackware all over it. WMP does, RealPlayer does, et al. To whomever tries it; be SURE and run SpyBot, AdAware, SpySweeper, etc., etc., after installing and using it.

Hopefully, (for those still screwed by Bourbon), G will leave the SE market and may be going on to other things. ;)
My guess is Google is going to head into the pay per view market with a massive catalog of old TV shows. This would incorporate their recent investments in dark fibre, payment processing etc.. My guess is you will soon be able to purchase episode #123 of Seinfeld via Google to view at your own leisure.
<<Hopefully, (for those still screwed by Bourbon), G will leave the SE market and may be going on to other things.>>

Nice thought but highly unlikely, ya think?
Meanwhile, my MSN referrals have skyrocketed whilst my Google refs, well, what can I say? Da Horror, Oh Da Horror!
does any one have an example of a playable video?

I've been searching in Google Videos - I cannot find anything to play.

Paul
And what does this have to do with search? Focus, Google! Focus!

Google is totally focussed... They're just looking at a bigger picture than you might be.

In another Internet News article, by the same writer...

Google Moving Forward on Payment System
http://www.internetnews.com/ec-news/article.php/3514551

...it's likely that Google is moving toward enabling payments for content, including books, news articles, video and other digital media.

Google has applied for a patent on a method of searching for media that would execute a permission protocol before search results were delivered. The protocol would allow the publisher to authorize Google to display more than snippets of the text. The protocol also could track page views and enable either a share of ad revenue with the publisher or delivery of the document on a pay-per-view basis.

In U.S. Patent Application No. 20040122811, filed by Google co-founder Larry Page, he says very directly that one idea is to permit subscription-like access to the electronic content.

According to the application, this system could be used not only for magazine articles but for providing paid access to CDs, DVDs and audio books.

More about the patent in this article (dated December 9, 2004)...
http://www.internetnews.com/ec-news/article.php/3446211

If Google could pull off what it outlines in that broad patent application, it may open new revenue streams to publishers of print, CD and DVD media, while broadening its own revenue base.
Anyone suppose that it's only matter of time before Google starts eyeing a movie Company or other entertainment industry corporation of some sort?

It'd certainly make them huge rivals for others in the business as well as allow them to compete with online offerings such as CinemaNow and MovieLink.

oh, and what about music offerings? Music on Demand the way others are already offering? I myself would welcome Music Video on Demand the way Yahoo does. 'sorry for that slight tangent.
does any one have an example of a playable video?
I've been searching in Google Videos - I cannot find anything to play.

Here's a funny one.
This has a lot to do with searching. Google seems to be trying to index the text in the video, so you can search it. The results still leave a lot to be desired, but you can imagine the direction this will go once they do a better job of doing the search, indexing the words spoken in the video, and dealing with all the licensing issues. It's pretty cool stuff.
This could do for video publishers what adsense has done for web publishers. Very interesting!
does any one have an example of a playable video?
I've been searching in Google Videos - I cannot find anything to play.

Plenty here
System Requirements
Windows 2000 or later with latest updates installed; Firefox 1.0 or IE 5.0 .
DirectX 9.0c End-User Runtime.

I'm not a programmer so I can't understand much of the VideoLAN patch file used to create the player plugin. One thing's for sure, it requires DirectX and Windows to function, despite the fact that VideoLAN is cross-platform.

The Windows Media Player is a standalone application, rife with its own DRM and entanglements with Hollywood.

If Google is planning a payment system, that simply means DRM (digital rights management) even if they don't use the term, so I'm not sure that the plugin is really any different from WMP. Why isn't the plugin cross-platform? Because Windows (because of the work put in by Microsoft for WMP) is the only platform where DRM can reasonably be enforced.

Of course Google is obliged to publish patch files as VideoLAN is GPL licensed - so it is much easier for someone with the appropriate knowledge to attempt to bypass the DRM mechanisms.

Interesting that the article states Google built the player on top of VLC which others have stated might be doomed to patent issues

VLC is participating in a campaign aginst EU software patents which is being run by the EFF and a large number of open-source projects. VLC is not alone with this stance. As the code is GPL it can be forked or moved outside of the EU in order to continue.
This one is on topic.
Can anyone catch what is written on the board? :)

http://video.google.com/videopreviewbig?q=google recruiting&time=30000&page=1&docid=-8618166999532839788
Is there a switch or keyword to only display results where you can watch the video?
My guess is Google is going to head into the pay per view market with a massive catalog of old TV shows. This would incorporate their recent investments in dark fibre, payment processing etc.. My guess is you will soon be able to purchase episode #123 of Seinfeld via Google to view at your own leisure.

Very unlikely. If that were going to happen, it would have happened already. The on-demand PPV market will happen on your television via cable and satellite operators, not online. The reason it hasn't happened online is because of fears about file sharing and because online, each additional downloader/viewer costs additional money (due to server loads and bandwidth costs). In other words, it doesn't scale anywhere nearly as cost-effectively as well as it does on satellite and cable.
This is another shot to kill Yahoo. I remember few months back Yahoo and industry analyst were claiming that Yahoo has gone to Hollywood while Google has gone to fight OS. But this changes everything. Yahoo can run, but not hide.

5 years down the line Google is going to look much more like Yahoo. How can Yahoo survive? How can we survive without Yahoo?
My guess is that Google may play middle man between the video creators and their audience.

It's already pretty easy to make and edit your own video productions - heck, Sony now has a consumer level hi-def camera and editing video is only getting easier/cheaper. The challenge for the little guy, as always, is reaching an audience. And facilitating that process would be right on-mission for Google.
I think Tedster nailed it... Google may play middle man between the creators and their audience.
I downloaded the player and looked into a few videos. It looks like the Discover Channel has been feeding Google like a hungry dog over the last couple of months.
My initial impression is it looks very Tivo-ish.

They will counter spamming attempts by reviewing video uploads before publication-- smart move.

Overall I think Google stepped up to a new level of sophistication. As much as I want to criticize Google every chance I get I can only say WOW to this effort.

Satelite mapping, translation, video search/play, oh my!
this is pretty cool. I wonder how far they can go to monetize this.

Maybe the'll the online Tivo. You missed Meet The Press this morning? Watch it 7 hours later, for just 99 cents. With the micropayments, everyone included will be happy.
>>>The reason it hasn't happened online is because of fears about file sharing and because online, each additional downloader/viewer costs additional money (due to server loads and bandwidth costs).<<<

which will be paid by advertising... that business model has already been proven to work, for a number of websites that are doing it right now... video advertising pays better than anything on a computer right now.

think about it... you own video assets that are currently limited to t.v.-only playback, and somebody wants to pay you to show 'em on a computer... of course you'll sit up and take notice.

the vlc player will of course never have any drm, so i don't see how people can tie it directly into the google payment processing situation.
Sounds like it would have malware or least trackware all over it.

I think they intended to provide the source code for the player. Right below the plugin download button it says Source code, and it links to the Google Project page. But there is no source code on that page. I guess they didn't get around to putting it up yet.
This could do for video publishers what adsense has done for web publishers. Very interesting!

OMG! Scraper sites!
The plug-in works with the Internet Explorer and Firefox browsers.

No Opera?
where can this player be downloaded from? i tried to find but couldnt.

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Where to go after

We're currently in the process of redesigning our site, and there is some discussion on what to do when a customer clicks on the Add to Cart button.

In the past, we had taken them to the shopping cart. Due to a small number of complaints that they didn't need to see their cart every time an item was added, and that they had difficulty navigating back to the product listing they had come from (the page before the product page), it was changed to take them back to the product page after adding to cart. We are discussing changing it back to the shopping cart to 1) make it more obvious that the item was added to the cart (no confirmation as it is now), and 2) try to emphasize the cross-sells, which currently are limited to the product page, well below the fold.

I was wondering what experiences people had with both scenarios, taking customers to the product page or to the shopping cart. What complaints have you gotten with each one? Any changes seen with regards to avg. order size or conversion numbers? Any usability studies done to support either one?

Thanks!
Good topic: A few commercial carts give the shopper a check box in the cart so he can decide whether to return to the cart after adding a product or return to
the product page.

Offhand I think giving an option is the worst choice especially if your customer base is fairly unsophisticated and orders, on average, just a few different items. It's one more thing to slow and confuse the shopper who is about to checkout.

I think it is best to clearly confirm that each product has been put in the cart even if that slightly slows someone ordering many different products.

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All of our carts take the shopper to the cart with each product addition. I recall only one or two complaints in many years.
I would think the answer to your question could be found fairly easily by evaluating your customer/order history.

Are you selling item(s) that a customer will typically purchase in quantity, variation, or selection? What you are selling should dictate how often a customer needs to see the cart. Look at your customer flow. If your typical order is multiple items I would suggest sending customers back to the product page to continue shopping. If your typical order is comprised of a single item I would send the customer to the checkout to complete the order.
Go to cart and then have a clear, visible link in bigger font that says:

Take me back to:

  • Blue mechanical widget page
  • All widget category

In the cart screen, highlight newly added product (in case user has several products in the cart). Have an easy way to adjust quantity and easy way to remove items.

Some carts are design in such a way that the user must set quantity to 0 and press update quantity in order to remove the item from the cart. This is totally not intuitive.

In usability every user action has to produce a clear, informative response. Simply redirecting to product page will confuse the user.
I personally hate not being directed to the shopping cart when I add something. I could see if people were adding a lot of items from a search or something not wanting to go to the cart. But we countered this by listing everything that is in the same 'category' as the item they just added at the bottom of the shopping cart. Then the customer just clicks the add button on the cart page for the other items they want. Its really fast and easy in my opinion.
Take the user to the shopping cart and include a link to return them to both the page that brought them there and a link to the category the product was in.

I also recommend displaying similar items on the cart page immediately after someone adds an item - if you collect previous sale data you can say Customers who purchased X also purchased... and show those items. Or you can show related items. For example if someone buys something electronic, include batteries on the cart page, or any addons/accessories for that product that they can add to the cart with one click.

It will take a little bit of work to put your product database together this way but its well worth the time and you'll definitely see an increase in your sales.
Some people I work with are in love with the return to product page method that we do now. They're thinking is, if someone is browsing page 5 of Category-X, and adds one of the items to their cart, they should easily be able to get back to page 5 of Category-X. In either case, redirecting to the product page or shopping cart, it's a simple matter of hitting the Back button a couple times. Apparently, the thinking is, this is more common if people are on a product page than a shopping cart. There is also some thought that people are scared to
when shopping, as this could clear the cart back in the old days of the 'net.

My one big problem with taking them back to the product page is, it adds a new item to the browser history, but the page appears almost identical, so that if they go Back in the browser, it takes them to the first product screen. Clicking Back and not getting a different screen is both annoying, and potentially confusing.

digitalv, We already do the cross-selling on the cart page, both with related items and top sellers. Which is why I like the idea of taking people to the cart page after doing an Add to Cart. The cross-sells on the cart page are much more noticible than those on the product page.

Unfortunately, the arguements of The web standard is to take them to the cart page, or it's better for confirming the item was added to the cart or we get better cross-sell opportunity have already fallen on deaf ears. Web site design is decided by someone not in the marketing department, and they tend to be very stubborn. So this whole thread is my little ammo-searching expedition.
There is also some thought that people are scared to when shopping, as this could clear the cart back in the old days of the 'net.

I think that is exactly why many of us should take responsibility and stop using home-grown solutions that are not user friendly and annoying. Users are scared from bad experiences that were brought to them by other shopping sites.

If you provide enjoyable and intuitive experience to the shopper, they are surely going to remember you and return for more. If you make it difficult, you will not only loose the returned visitors, but you have a risk of loosing the first sale.

Human brain remembers bad experiences a lot more than the good ones. Lets try and eliminate the bad ones.
A few commercial carts give the shopper a check box in the cart so he can decide whether to return to the cart after adding a product or return to the product page.

What do you all think of giving the customer the option?
This seems an opportune thread to get some feedback from the ecommerce webmaster community on a cart design I have not seen elsewhere. A friend is developing a custom shopping cart for a particular client. It is currently undergoing in-house user testing.

I got to play with it a couple of weeks ago. I have no idea about the code involved although I assume it is AJAX. I have permission to describe it in the following very limited fashion:

A box/div about 200px square in the top right corner (of every page) initially shows some shopping/shipping PR info. On each product page (in varying locations probably for testing reasons) is an order bar along the lines of:
Add Widget in size to my order.
Stubby arrows above and below each option allow for user customisation. Clicking this order bar causes the item as described to show up in the top right box which now displays as an interactive shopping cart.

Later on if you want to drop or modify an order in that cart box it can be done directly in the box - no need to go elsewhere. When done browsing/ordering one click brings up an order confirmation page with similarly interactive identity, shipping, and payment fields.

It is beyond anything I have done with carts and AJAX got added (again) to my learn how to use list. I had very little time with it and so no opportunity for testing/analysing.

What intregued me, however, was the constant interactive shopping cart - no need to go back and forth - and the fewer pages to final payment.

Thoughts?
One thing you need to make sure is that the cart works without AJAX. Not everyone has appropriate settings to have AJAX working 100%.
What do you all think of giving the customer the option?

The less options the better. Simplify the user interface. IMHO after user added something to the cart, you should always show cart's content. Users might want to evaluate total costs in case of purchasing multiple products. They might wanna see the total with shipping costs included. They might want to adjust quantities. And most important, they mgiht want to make sure the product in fact is in the cart.
The goals of any shopping site should be to:

- Allow customers to find products and add them to the cart as easily as possible.
- Allow customers to checkout as easily as possible.

Oh, and to convince them to buy in the first place, of course.

When someone adds a product to their cart they should go to the cart page, because otherwise they may not realize that their add to cart worked.

There should also be a View Cart/Checkout button clearly labeled on the top of every other screen, preferably upper right.

When they go to the cart page, there should NOT be a Clear Cart button. Why would you want to encourage customers to clear their entire cart? Or let them press that by accident? I'm amazed at how many sites have such a button.

Preferably there should be thumbnail pictures of every item they ordered, with links to remove the product from the cart or change quantity.

The Checkout button should be large and clearly labeled and again ABOVE THE FOLD.

A Keep Shopping button should be there, which should ideally take customers to the product page in the category they were in, or back to the item they bought (I prefer the former).

Once in the checkout process there should be NO NAVIGATION other than a Return to Shopping button and the Continue etc. buttons. You do not want the customer to be distracted.

Also, the cart contents should be visible on every page in the process, because people forget what they're doing.

One question which I don't have resolved completely is whether it's better to have less checkout screens or more screens, each of which fit on one page with no scrolling.

Currently we have 2 checkout screens (shipping and billing), and I think having only one would be better, given the you lose customers with each click rule, but if anyone has studies which show differently I'd love to see 'em.
Excellent points psage!

Regarding multiple screens.

It depends on the kind of cart you have. Generally you should split the number of screens into logical segments. The screen with the payment info should idealy be last. You don't want to disapoint the customer by getting the credit card right away. People don't like to pay, they like to spend money ;). You should lure them into entering all the other info to make them less tempted to leave.

  1. Confirmation screen with the list of products that the customer is about to buy
  2. Shipping address
  3. Billing address
  4. Credit card info
  5. Purchase confirmation screen
  6. Suggest to create an account with the info provided

Confirmation screen

Provide very detailed info about each product. The customer should have no doubt about what they are buying. You don't want them wondering off to do research on the product while they are checking out.

Emphasise you return/refund policy if it's unusual, or if you have lots of free riders.

Shipping & Billing Address

Allow very easy and free form address entry. Do not overwelm the customer by hundreads of input boxes. Make it internationally friendly. Not everyone lives in the U.S. ;)

Allow the customer to choose same as shipping address on Billing Address screen. Automatically fill the form out with JS from hidden values from Shipping Address.

Credit Card Info

Allow free entry of the credit card number. Do not separate the number into multiple input boxes.

Show full month names as well as month numbers. Sometimes it's not clear which drop down is month and which one is year. Again, not everyone lives in the U.S., and date representation standards vary from country to country. Some people remember month names better than their numerical representation. For some it might be easier to remember that the card expires in August, rather than in 08. You don't say I was born on zero eight, twenty third in seventy second.

Purchase confirmation screen

Could be the same as the initial screen, expcept it would say that the purchase has been placed and will be handled shortly.

Leave contact info in case the customer has any questions.

Clearly say how long it will take for handling and what is approximate shipping time.

Suggest to create an account

Display this very clearly on the confirmation screen. State the benefits of registration (e.g. easy checkout in future, sale updates, future discounts, etc...). State the privacy policy in short. Have a link to a full privacy policy page.

Offer a small discount (5%-10%) for the next purchase if the user registers now. It will make the come back.

Warning: These are my thoughts from experience as a shopper, not from experience as a seller.

To me, it's kinda silly to discuss this. Look at the flow of the large ecommerce sites and do it that way. They've spent money researching the issue and they also have the traffic and sales volume required to gain meaningful insight into customer behavior.
Great discussion. One of the biggest sources of lost business are abandoned shopping carts. While some of these may not really be true losses (sometimes I'll toss something into my cart to see how shipping is calculated, how the cart works, etc.), presumably many are really lost business.

Taking a person to the cart with a clearly visible checkout option is best, IMO - rather than hoping for additional sales, make sure the buyer can complete the transaction with a minimum of fuss or confusion. Naturally, some obvious links to continue shopping are desirable too... but don't let anything stand in the way of fast & easy checkout.
To me, it's kinda silly to discuss this. Look at the flow of the large ecommerce sites and do it that way.

I am sorry, but this is simply not true. There are hundreads if not thousands of big companies that do it wrong.

The first one that comes to mind is GoDaddy, because I had recent experience. I don't hold any domains with them personaly, but one of my clients does. I had to go through a whole bunch of screens and trouble to get a domain registered/renewed. They upsell on every step. It makes it extremely difficult to complete the task even for me.

Just yesterday, the secretary lady was supposed to register two .com domains with them, instead of me. By mistake she ended up registering 1 .com and 2 .biz domains. How could that happen? Check it out for yourself.
Is the point of the GoDaddy checkout to maximize the user experience or to instead maximize revenue for GoDaddy? Your example cites someone who planned on purchasing two domains and instead purchased three and probably has to go back and get a fourth. Seems like a well-designed checkout to me!
The first one that comes to mind is GoDaddy, because I had recent experience. I don't hold any domains with them personaly, but one of my clients does. I had to go through a whole bunch of screens and trouble to get a domain registered/renewed. They upsell on every step. It makes it extremely difficult to complete the task even for me.

Just yesterday, the secretary lady was supposed to register two .com domains with them, instead of me. By mistake she ended up registering 1 .com and 2 .biz domains. How could that happen? Check it out for yourself.

GoDaddy is the #1 domain registrar in the world, did about $100 Million in 2004 and they're probably going to do twice that this year - if you consider what they're doing doing it wrong you've got a lot to learn about running an ecommerce site and a business. Those upsells have EVERYTHING to do with their revenue.
GoDaddy certainly has the right setup to promote up-selling, cross-selling, and annoying people. I would imagine that the scenario described, purchasing the wrong domains, isn't an uncommon one. I would also suspect this leads to 2 results: 1) Users get used to the layout (like me), and know exactly where to click No thanks on each page, or 2) users get tired/annoyed with the attempts, and go else where. While I think they have the right mindset, GoDaddy's approach is much to forceful for my tastes. (Why do I still use them? habit mostly)
I did a split-run test a while ago.
One group remained at the shopping cart page with a link back to the last added product and a link to the category that containts that product.
The other group was returned to the product page, and under the price there was a smaller sign this itam was added to the shopping cart.

I found no significant difference in conversions.
GoDaddy is the #1 domain registrar in the world, did about $100 Million in 2004 and they're probably going to do twice that this year - if you consider what they're doing doing it wrong you've got a lot to learn about running an ecommerce site and a business. Those upsells have EVERYTHING to do with their revenue.

They earn most of that money by trickery and the fact that if you buy the wrong domain you cannot be refunded. If you consider that a good practice, then there is no argument. I see it as deceiving upsell. They sell a whole bunch of additional services that the end user does not understand and most likely will never need. And users do buy it without their knowledge.

I disagree with those kind of tacktics, but it's a matter of opinion and personal standards.

The fact that they did $100 mil does not make the shopping cart user friendly. It could easily be due to them having good advertising, creative branding and many other reasons. You can't measure corporate earnings just by the cart setup. It's only a small factor.

And I don't even blame GoDaddy developers. I am sure most of those ideas are forced from corporate execs. Developers and interface designers just have to play by the rules of execs.

You'd be surprised how many big corporations have horrible interfaces. Just have a look at the websites of major offline retailers.
Actually, Go Daddy just changed their cart a few weeks ago so that an experienced user could bypass the upsells. These big companies do pay attention to what sells and makes money.

So has anyone given consideration to the demographics of your site user? Older, younger, web savvy, web clueless, income high, middle, low?

These all play a huge role in how you should present the shopping cart. Since Go Daddy is such a hot topic in this thread, let's use them.

Who shops at Go Daddy for Domains? Most likly a web savvy, moderate to high income user, probably young but not necessarily. But even then you have two user groups.

One, is a bulk domain buyer, or at least one that buys quite frequently. Probably has hosting and knows something about search engines and internet marketing.

The other is someone who knows just enough about the internet to be able to handle a WYSIWYG and knows that you can get a domain name. Probably wants to make a personal site to put up pics of the kids. Or maybe, wants to try selling some things online. They've heard that you can do that pretty easy.

Go Daddy's shopping cart was set up to maximize their profit. Prior to the change made a few weeks ago, they probably trusted that if you had no need for any of their services (Group A), you were web savvy enough to navigate their upsells and the price was low enough to make it worth your while to do so. And maybe it just so happened that you threw in a service or two.

But Group B is something all together different. These people probably don't have the first clue where to host from, probably didn't know that you had to do anything to get in search engines and, most importantly, have alot of disposable income. Every page brings about a Hey, I need that reaction and another dollar sign in the cart.

Now, over some time now, Go Daddy prices have not been as competative as they use to be. And suddenly, it's not worth the savvy users time to cut through the crap. Hence, the change to their check out.

You really need to think about who your user is. If possible, find a sample of your users and sit them in front of a computer and watch them go through. Sort of an informal usablity study. Remember too, that just because it seems easy to you, doesn't mean it is easy. Average internet users are incredibly ignorant.
I find that a simple, confirmation screen displaying the the product thumbnail and short description along with a notice about it being added to their cart.

Below this a < Continue Shopping button on the left and Checkout > button to right.

So the customer clearly see's he's added his/her item and now is presented with the option to proceed to checkout or continue browsing. Normally I just place them back on the home page on continue just to try and up-sell more. Just my 2cents.
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I did a split-run test a while ago.
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That's the point I was making. The large ecommerce sites do this also only their dataset is huge. A friend who works for a large e diet site said they can tell if a new banner ad is performing in-line with expectations after less than 10 minutes (probably because the ad is on the front page of msn). The large sites are working with phenomenal traffic and order levels and do regular testing on how features and site flow affects user trends. When a question about how a standard commerce function should operate, one should always consider large sites like Amazon (or whatever is appropriate for your industry) as a well-researched reference implementation. No need to reinvent the wheel.
No need to reinvent the wheel.

I think the point they were trying to make was that you don't know which big ecomm sites are in the know and which are not. I know of several multi-million dollar ecomm sites with national brick and mortar stores that not only know very little about how to measure usability, the people running them probably don't know what usability is.

Looking at what the big guys are doing only makes sense if you have it on the best knowledge that they too know what they are doing.
The problem that plagues most webmasters is showcased wonderfully in this thread.

Decide what you want your site to do, and then design it to perform that task well.

FACTS:
A.)The website in question has been online making successful sales for sometime.
B.)Seeing that the site has been online it is reasonable to assume that they have loads of data on customer flow, behavior, order history, tracking logs, etc.

Armed with such powerful information, why would you want to be influenced by generalizations from other webmasters about what worked for them?

If you want a website to be successful you first need to think about what you want it to accomplish. Do you WANT your customers to order more, or do you WANT them to checkout and leave?

I dont understand why so many webmasters look to the next guy when they are trying to decide what is best for THEIR site. GoDaddy does what they do because in order to remain a power in the domain market they HAVE TO upsell. If youre looking for a mentor in product-based e-commerce youd be better of looking at Amazon.
Our web store does exactly what I think you should do.

I session varriable the URL on the last page viewed before the customer hits a product to view it's details. Then I provide a button on the cart which says 'continue shopping' and if clicked it just takes them back to the sessioned URL. I also use URL variables on my pages to keep track of where they are in the process since they are all dynamic in conent. Therefore, it always brings them back to the exact same spot they were when they clicked on the product to see the details.

It's easy to set up if you designed your site in a similar way.

Good Luck!
Mike
I believe there is no one general way of doing the things. The web targets really matters on how you handle the things.

But what moltar have mentioned above seems to be quite a good info to me.

Habtom
Allow the customer to choose same as shipping address on Billing Address screen. Automatically fill the form out with JS from hidden values from Shipping Address.

Moltar, this brings up a pet peeve of mine.

Make very clear how the order will be shipped!

I live in a rural area without US Postal service. If it is shipped US Postal it goes to my PO Box. UPS/Fed Ex comes to my front door.

If I don't know the shipping method I don't know my own shipping address, which has caused problems with great consistancy. Last order was software, and I had to assume US Postal. A couple of days later I get a call from UPS asking for a physical address. Another time is was a relatively large order ($800 US) that I gave PO Box for, and it was returned to sender by the Post Office.

WBF

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Er - How big is the file download for the free version - surely it must say that somewhere?

Might give it a whirl - got to decide on what system though.

Edit - 10 Meg
> I remember downloading a free program from NASA with the same data.

Sounds like you're talking about NASA's free World Wind. (It starts as a 180MB download, and then just eats drive space - IF you cache data.)

World Wind far surpasses anything else available (freely) online, but it's only worth the download if you're interested in more than seeing if you can spot your house from space.
Nice to almost see my house. But: last time I checked, this country was called the Netherlands and our neighbors in the south lived in Belgium. According to G, the names have been swapped ;)
FYI

Google's new satellite
imagery-based mapping product that combines 3D buildings and terrain with mapping capability and Google search. Based on Keyhole technology, Google Earth enables users to fly from space to street level views to find geographic information and explore places around the world.


Fantastic tool

I can see this being used in School Geography lessions! Population info would be great - as would being able to to type in Pyramids etc.

The different angles are amazing (though its only US cities that have been given the 3d treatment as far as I can see).
FYI - the download is almost exactly 10Mb. :-)
great, thanks for the post. i think this is excellent
Hi,

This is what I would love to have done with my site, given the resources... I have up and running a very low-grade version of the idea where you can zoom in by location and see samples of what the world looks like right there. But Google has the time and money to do it right!

Rgds

DHD
> I can see this being used in School Geography lessions!

Not so long as...

> last time I checked, this country was called the Netherlands
I can see my house here in Scotland!
me too (entered my postcode)!

It's weird how some parts are pretty detailed while other areas show much less - but I guess that will change in time. Perhaps in the future we'll get live images :)
I can see this being integrated into cars when onboard computers become more main stream. Imagine driving down a block, seeing a list of all stores in the nearbye area and which sales are currently going on.

Google rules.
Ths thing is awesome - would love to see it as an option in my in dash GPS a few years from now.
I can see this being integrated into cars when onboard computers become more main stream.

It's already possible. If you have high speed wireless connection, a laptop with G-Earth installed, you can bind this with GPS and it will move in real time.
No Mac version yet... but to Google's credit we're working on it
earthbrowser, for anyone who needs a slick one for the mac
Win 98 and macs :( ...

can't wait to get home to see what the fuss is about.
I couldn't find anything on the site, so I suspect the answer is in the EULA...

Is the end user (of any version of the product) allowed to use, manipulate, alter & republish the data for non-commercial purposes?

As a hypothetical example, can I take a Google-generated view of my town, save it, crop out the Google copyright (and anything else I don't want), resize it, add a red circle around my house, put the graphic on my personal website (whether it's commercial or not), add a citation (not a link to Google) - but only if I feel like it, say Look! My house from space!, and not expect to run afoul of the authorities?

I suspect the answer is a resounding No!, but you don't know unless you ask...
For my area the results are absolutely terrible. For example, the biggest hospital within 100 miles which is also one of the major hospitals in the state is named something completely different and in the wrong location. Not only that but the old hospital, which hasn't been a hospital for 15 years is listed as a hospital but at least it shows the right location. Not a good sign if your driving through the area and need to find the hospital fast. This isn't the only information thats wrong, most of the places in my town are completely off. My $215 gps unit with default built-in US map does a much better job. So it's not like the correct information isn't out there, I wonder why google's information is so far off?
Good job, GOOG. Awesome toy.
Absolutely addicting to play with (and I am so not into games but this is like educational!)

Kinda dissapointed at the (lack of) resolution in some areas but I guess that can only improved in time.

They should use this in schools, learning geography was never so much fun!
Hmmm...

Doesn't work for me - bunch of errors when installing and running.

Odd - Google's photo viewer Picasa was the same.

There's something about my PC that Google doesn't like - and their testing doesn't catch.

Strange, because I can't think of another software vendor that I have any problems with - and I've got LOADS of stuff on this machine, that all works fine.

Shame - it looks awesome! (off to dig out another computer!)
No Mac version yet... but to Google's credit we're working on it

Yeah, I'm very disappointed in them for this. I know Windows rules by a long way, but even an aweful lot of free open source get ported to MAC, and those people have no funds at all. Google on the other hand has some massive fundage, plus a MUCH wider audience, so I would have expected them to dual-release versions for at least OS X & Linux.
Too late to edit my last post, but...

<edit>
The answer, as I phrased the question, is indeed no.

So on that note, I'd like to say Thank You! to the American taxpayers who have spent billions of dollars supplying the world with much the same data as used by Google, but in the public domain.
</edit>
I mentioned this on another thread and it may not apply to all versions, but the Google Earth Plus that I have will fly a route for you.
In other words I get directions from my house to some place in NYC (just like Google Maps) and hit the button and it will fly me, (speed adjustable) along the route.
Most excellent. And as I said in the other thread, i'm just waiting for the goggles.

EVO
Lhis makes mapping points of interest more intuitive. I don't see it being used on a cell phone any time soon, but that would be the logical progression to merge local search with this tool.
Regarding Google Earth being W2K/XP only...

WorldWind apparently runs on W95 and up (with some caveats), and since it's open source, if you're ambitious you can port it to OS X or *nix.
Does anyone know how Google Earth differs from Keyhole? Is it any faster?

I found Keyhole very exiting at first, but soon tired of waiting the long download time for images. (Am connected to internet with two-way satelitte system.)
Apple Macintosh computers are not supported at this time (but we are working on it)......

Glad to see its on their todo list :D

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